Good Article on Phil Robertson Fiasco

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/19/ae-declares-war-on-duck-dynastys-christian-values/

Progressive Christians need to take heed.  Supporting gay marriage will not end with gay marriage.  The cry for fairness will not stop there, and it will soon be unacceptable for anyone to say anything negative about homosexual practices (we are just about there already).  My guess is that in 5 or 10 years we will see KAY jewelry commercials with  gay couples kissing as the KAY jingle plays in the background (and if they refuse to make such commercials, they will eventually be strong-armed to do so in the name of “fairness”,”tolerance” and “equal rights”).  It will become impossible for Christians who hold to the Biblical teaching that homosexual practice is sinful to watch TV with their children without being bombarded by gay and lesbian promotions, while anything having to do with Christianity will be mocked, ridiculed and deemed unacceptable (as is already often the case).  Mark my words, that’s where this is leading.

It further needs to be stated that simply saying homosexual practice is a sin is not hate speech any more than saying lying or stealing is a sin is hate speech.  But it won’t be long before you can’t even say lying or stealing or adultery is a sin without being labeled hateful and “intolerant.” Yes, it really is a slippery slope.  It is also entirely false to say that if one regards homosexual practice as sinful that makes that person a homophobe.  Thinking homosexual practice a sin makes one a homophobe is no different than thinking any particular activity is sinful makes one afraid of the person who commits the sin.  Will we soon have adultryphobes?  Liarphobes?  Theifphobes?  Cheatphobes?  Pornographobes? Abusephobes?  Only time will tell, but let’s get it right for the moment.  If you support the gay and lesbian agenda and find homosexual activity as just an acceptable “alternative” lifestyle, learn to disagree with those who see it as sinful without resorting to “homophobe” and “hate speech”  rhetoric.   And if you believe that homosexual practice is a sin, learn to say so without being hateful (and there are plenty that are hateful towards those who engage in homosexual practice).  In my opinion, nothing Phil said was hateful or homophobic.

In the end, we need to remember that according to Christianity, all sin separates us from a Holy God and God, in His grace, has mercifully provided a means for forgiveness and, yes, deliverance.  That forgiveness and deliverance is made possible through Christ who shed His blood for all, that all might be set free from the bondage of sin.  Why?  Because God so loved the world (John 3:16-18, 36), and that world that God so loved includes those who practice homosexuality.  Phil was simply quoting Scripture:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Cor. 6:9-11)

Thank God for verse 11.  If it weren’t for that, we would all be lost.

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7 Responses

  1. I agree with much that you stated, and I included this in my “Findings in Arminianism” this week. I will only make this one comment in response: you might have a slightly different perspective if you were actually gay — even if you still held that gay sex is considered sinful from God’s perspective, like me.

    I’m also not so naive as to think that my being gay does not cloud my judgment on this issue, causing me to be less objective. I know that full well. Still, if you were in my position, if you walked a mile in my shoes, hearing many other statements made by conservative, FOX-type individuals on a weekly basis — being the butt of jokes, smears, gossip, strange looks, abandonment, isolation, viewed as a monster and a pervert — you might have a different perspective on this issue.

  2. Billy,

    Point well taken. Thank you.

    God Bless,
    Ben

  3. It is a difficult balance to determine how to talk about homosexuality as sin while being aware that society will misunderstand us if we simply say it. If we want to actually communicate, and we know that society will misinterpret us if we are blunt, then we can’t be blunt. Instead we need to be constantly be explaining in full if we wish to comment at all.

  4. Here is a post from a distinguished Christian scholar with some interesting discussion in the comment thread, especially response from a Christian who rejects homosexuality as sinful but has a gay sexual orientation and a humble and respectful attitude: http://michaeljkruger.com/wheres-all-of-the-tolerance-duck-dynasty-and-homosexuality/

  5. Thanks for that link. You can’t help but to feel for that person. Someone posted a link that gets to the heart of some of the concerns I expressed in this post about where this type of thing could potentially lead:

    I don’t want to jump to conclusions, but as a parent of a 7 year old, I can’t help but to be concerned. I am not ready to have this conversation with her (and she is not ready either), and I worry that in the years to come, young children won’t be able to avoid being exposed to it at a very early age, despite their parent’s personal beliefs about the issue or efforts to shield them from exposure until they are old enough to rightly process what it is all about.

    I do have tremendous sympathy for those who struggle with same sex attraction and hold to the Biblical view that gay sex is sinful. I can only imagine how hard that must be. I am also deeply troubled by some preachers and churches that are truly hateful towards those who struggle with this. Such preachers and churches have done a great deal of harm to many people and God will hold them accountable.

    God Bless.

  6. I would offer that all homosexuality (tendencies as well as behavior) is a result of the entrance of sin into the world as a result of Adam’s fall, and that Jesus is still the answer for all sin. Apart from Christ, we are all in bondage to sin and in need of ‘being made alive in Christ’ and overcoming whatever sin besets us. Personally, I don’t know any preachers or churches who are hateful toward those who struggle with same sex tendencies. I do however that Christians are accused of being hateful bigots for not approving of what God calls sin. I also know that far more bigotry and intolerance has been expressed by the gay community than by Christians.

  7. I should mention that just a few days after posting this and voicing my concerns in the comments about my daughter being exposed to such things at an early age, she got up earlier than us and found a kids show (or movie, can’t remember which) on TV. Unfortunately, even though the show was one we had normally allowed her to watch (on other channels), she had found it on MTV. She knew the show (or movie) was approved by us and was oblivious to what channel it was on. When I saw her watching the movie I likewise didn’t give much thought to what channel it was on and wouldn’t even have thought it was on MTV. When the movie ended MTV began immediately promoting one of their shows and showed a scene of two young girls (High school or young college aged) sitting on a couch. This looked entirely benign until one of the girls suddenly began aggressively kissing the other girl. It happened too fast to even react and my daughter witnessed it.

    Recently, I saw on a news channel that some music awards on CBS had a time where couples were married on TV. They were all lined up exchanging their vows. Many of the couples were gay or lesbian. Why on earth would CBS think it is OK to have such a thing during a music awards program that young children could be watching (though I personally would never let my child watch such a program)? Parents who allowed their children to watch, despite their personal views about same sex marriage or homosexuality, could not avoid their kids being suddenly exposed to seeing same sex couples marry and then kiss on TV. This will only get worse in my opinion and it is a shame that “progressive” Christians are helping to make this a reality. Like I said, they are very naive if they think this is just an issue of “marriage equality.” It is far more than that and will not stop there.

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