“Dead” means “Dead!”

When Arminians insist that “world” means “world” and “all” means “all” in certain passages (Jn. 3:16; 1 Tim. 2:4), we are met with jeers from our Calvinist friends.  But don’t you dare question their understanding of “dead” in sin (Eph. 2:1, 5; Col. 2:13); after all, “dead” means “dead” don’t you know?

Related Links:

What Can The Dead in Sin Do?

John Fletcher on Being “Dead in Sin”

John Fletcher on Being “Dead in Sin” Part 2

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8 Responses

  1. “Dead” means “dead”! A corpse doesn’t do anything! How can a corpse sin? =)

  2. Along those same lines…

    Calvinists like to use the raising of Lazarus as an analogy of salvation. Richard Coords has a good post on the problems with that:

    http://examiningcalvinism.blogspot.com/2008/06/debating-calvinism-white-vs-hunt.html

  3. Context, context, context!

    Of course words can be more limited than their usual meaning, or metaphorical. It needs to be shown that there is a contextual reason for the meaning.

    Note the reason is contextual, not hermeneutical.

  4. Context, context, context!

    Couldn’t agree more. BTW, does “bethyada” stand for “house of knowledge” or something similar. Just testing out my Hebrew a little.

    See ya next week,
    Ben

  5. BTW, does “bethyada” stand for “house of knowledge” or something similar. Just testing out my Hebrew a little.

    That was my intention, though I don’t speak Hebrew. You are the first person to suggest this in my 18 months online!

  6. “Dead means dead” – could not the idea of this deadness being the corpse-in-a-coffin be a little superficial and cerebral?

    The greatest problem I see with the use of Lazarus as the one dead in tresspasses and being raised to life again is the fact that this view of the divine miracle completley forgets the reason why Jesus did what He did. (btw Lazarus was described as Jesus’ good friend; Christ has good friends who are dead in sin?)
    The reason Christ did what he did in calling Lazarus forth was NOT to display His regenrating power and order of salvation: Jesus spcifically prayed directly before He did this miracle that He would do it so the people could know that He was indeed from God, and therefore, logically, be able to believe in Him (John 11:41-42).

    I think a better example of saving faith is in the person of Mary; the ordinary broken woman who anointed Jesus’ feet with the alabaster jar of perfume* and wiped them with her hair, to whom Christ said: “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.” (Luke 7:50)

    {* Just a s anote about perfume the woman brought in to Jesus.. inscence (which is an aroma like perfume) is used as a symbol in Revelation for the prayers of the saints (Rev. 8:4). Could it be possible to look at this literally as well as symbolically? Mary’s bringing in of perfume is like a prayer offered by a sinner to God, perhaps.}

  7. I worded a sentence badly above: Jesus DID do the miracle to display His power (His divine power) in order to testify to His divinity and authority over death; but this was not an example of the order of salvation. I hope that akes sense! =S

  8. Brendan,

    Good comments. Calvinists are stretching badly in appealing to Christ’s raising of Lazarus from the dead in order to support their ordo salutis. That they have to go to such passages to support their doctrine demonstrates just how difficult it is for them to find any solid support for such doctrines in Scripture.

    God Bless,
    Ben

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